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It sounds like they're doing a balancing act as to NOT infringe on the HP of other models. It sounds like they want a variety of options for HP, so the new V-8 will have more than these AND the EV, so maybe 700? Like everyone says, WHY make a V-8 that has less HP and is slower???????????
So the crybabies can stop whining! They also need to get a base or GT model out. I wonder what hp the Hurricane would make with out the turbos?
 
There were tons of last call Hemi cars available. They sat forever. My local dealer had a beautiful 2023 destroyer gray jailbreak Scat that was on the lot for well over a year. How many of the people bitching about V8’s bought one then? I bet it’s slim to none.
To be fair… they had them priced like they were Maybachs and also I don’t think anyone believed they were going to stop selling them given how they reneged on things so much in the last few years.
 
But in the end my dealer lowered the price and moved the few they had. Later RJD
 
Since ECO and SNOW are 300, I'll have to remember to check boost since I drive in ECO all the time.
I'm 97% sure ECO is full power, I forgot to run a pass with it on at the dragstrip. I can at least do a Draggy 0-60 run to compare. Here is one of the first runs in Mexico



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Look what I found from the manual! I could have swore that I read different somewhere..... A little tough to read, but according to this on page 134, they're all maximum except Valet which is 300. Welp, even AI confirmed that. I guess today I try Valet mode.

Gasoline Engine Performance TablesDrive Mode Performance TableDrive Mode Horsepower Paddle Shifters - If EquippedAuto/Street420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOnAuto + Eco420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOffWet/Snow420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOffSport420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOnSport RWD420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack Model
 
Look what I found from the manual! I could have swore that I read different somewhere..... A little tough to read, but according to this on page 134, they're all maximum except Valet which is 300. Welp, even AI confirmed that. I guess today I try Valet mode.

Gasoline Engine Performance TablesDrive Mode Performance TableDrive Mode Horsepower Paddle Shifters - If EquippedAuto/Street420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOnAuto + Eco420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOffWet/Snow420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOffSport420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack ModelsOnSport RWD420 - R/T Models550 - Scat Pack Model
That is incorrect. The owners manual on the Mopar site contradicts that information. Also page 134. They keep updating the manual, I'm guessing you saved an older version.
Updated manual says 300 for Eco and wet/snow.

It's possible you have the correct version but I don't think so. Wet/snow reducing HP was part of the reason I bought this car (just in case I needed it on winter months)
 
That is incorrect. The owners manual on the Mopar site contradicts that information. Also page 134. They keep updating the manual, I'm guessing you saved an older version.
Updated manual says 300 for Eco and wet/snow.

It's possible you have the correct version but I don't think so. Wet/snow reducing HP was part of the reason I bought this car (just in case I needed it on winter months)
Good! That much would not do any good. Yeah, I downloaded the manual from the Dodge site also! I'll go look for another ASAP then.
 
I found an old copy from February 2026, that said 300. Dodge still shows the manual with full power though. While researching the manual, something just dawned on me. Would Dodge have the outdated copy OR could they have found that it is now full power? Someone needs to check the HP numbers in each mode from the car then. I'm not sure I can figure that out yet. I'm only at 350 miles.
 
I found an old copy from February 2026, that said 300. Dodge still shows the manual with full power though. While researching the manual, something just dawned on me. Would Dodge have the outdated copy OR could they have found that it is now full power? Someone needs to check the HP numbers in each mode from the car then. I'm not sure I can figure that out yet. I'm only at 350 miles.
Could go either way, but I'm pretty sure the car was advertised as having reduced power in those modes so I assume that was the intent.
Either way, this is more evidence that the manual keeps changing, and that's why other discrepancies have popped up on this site (ex. break in period recommendation of 300 vs 500 miles)
 
Could go either way, but I'm pretty sure the car was advertised as having reduced power in those modes so I assume that was the intent.
Either way, this is more evidence that the manual keeps changing, and that's why other discrepancies have popped up on this site (ex. break in period recommendation of 300 vs 500 miles)
Both of mine show 300 miles, I believe the only thing was confusion over miles/kilometers. Plus, the oil level thing is a bar graph as opposed to a circle they show in there. The two manuals have a difference of one page, but I'm not sure where it is. Don't we have one available in the car? I wonder if it can be downloaded.
 
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